5 Things We Learned About Michelle Obama From Her Thought-Provoking Interview With Oprah Winfre…

Michelle Obama is saying goodbye to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. 

The outgoing First Lady sat down for a revealing interview with Oprah Winfrey as part of a CBS special aired Monday evening. In it, Michelle reflected on her eight years spent alongside husband Barack Obama in the White House, which as the media mogul put it, made her the “coolest” president’s wife in the history of the United States. 

We’ve learned so much about Malia and Sasha Obama‘s proud mama throughout the Obama administration (The causes she fought for, her love of Carpool Karaoke and what’s inside that enviable FLOTUS wardrobe), but as it turns out, there’s still so much we haven’t heard from the beloved public figure. Take a look at the 5 things we found out about Michelle for the very first time:

1. She “Feels” for Young Hollywood:

During her conversation with Winfrey, Michelle attributed much of her success as First Lady to “being a grown up,” an advantage to fame she feels young stars can unfortunately never benefit from. “I always said to myself, this would be really hard if I were 20 or 30. That’s why I look at these young celebrities, and I just feel for them, because you have to be grown up enough to know yourself in this. And that just takes time,” Michelle shared. 

2. The Obama Parents Didn’t Sympathize With Their Teenage Daughters’ Complaints:

It’s not easy growing up under the watchful, often judgmental, eyes of an entire country, but that doesn’t mean Michelle and Obama gave their kids special treatment. Sure, FLOTUS made sure Malia and Sasha, now 18 and 15-years-old respectively, “felt normal,” but when they agonized over the presence of secret service, Michelle had no problem putting their issues into perspective.

“As I reminded my girls, these aren’t problems. These are very high class problems. Because of where Barack and I come from, we just couldn’t sympathize with their… It was like, ‘Girl, you live in the White House. You do not get to complain about this,'” she explained. 

3. Michelle 2020? Not So Fast: 

The First Lady might look back on her years in the White House with fond memories, but that doesn’t mean she plans to run back in four years. When asked if she’ll be seeking the presidential nomination come 2020, Michelle responded matter of factly, “No, no.”  

She then elaborated on public speculation about her political aspirations, adding, “I don’t make stuff up… If I were interested in it, I’d say it. I don’t believe in playing games. It’s not something I would do.” Obama continued, “But it also speaks to the fact that people don’t really understand how hard this is. And it’s not something that you cavalierly just sort of ask a family to do again.” 

Sigh. 

4. The Obama’s Will Enjoy a Much-Needed Vacation Come Jan. 20:

After Donald Trump is officially sworn in, Barack informed Oprah that before heading back to Washington D.C. for Sasha to finish up high school, the former First Family will travel “someplace warm.” 

As for how Michelle will make use of her suddenly less chaotic calendar, she agreed to Oprah’s request to go glamping on one condition… Oprah’s on chef duty. “I’m down. Sign me up!” Michelle responded, adding, “Oprah and Michelle on the road in Yosemite.”

Sounds like a must-see television series in the making!

5. Michelle and Barack’s Marriage Is Stronger Than Ever:

Despite two presidential terms of constant ups and downs, Michelle said every hurdle has ultimately brought the pair closer together. 

“The only other person who has a clue about what this is, the good, the bad, is your partner,” Michelle recalled. 

Never change, Obama family.